Immortal- Endless life or existence. (http://www.answers.com/topic/immortality)
I believe that people today try to achieve IMMORALITY everyday.
http://www.ben-abba.com/ this website talks about how people try to live forever.
Tuesday, September 29, 2009
Immoratlity
Immortal- Endless life or existence. (http://www.answers.com/topic/immortality)
I believe that people today try to achieve IMMORALITY everyday.
http://www.ben-abba.com/ this website talks about how people try to live forever.
Monday, September 28, 2009
Tragic Man
* A Belief in His Own Freedom- Oedipus believes that what he does is his own actions on one is responsible but himself. When he hears what his fate it to be. He BELIEFS that his parents he had been living with are is actual parents but they aren't they are his adoptive parents. So he runs away and a kills his father and marries his mother. He had made his fate come true. When he hears what he did he excepts his sins and punish himself worst than what he set for anyone else.
* Supreme Pride/Hubris- Oedipus has extreme pride because well he is a king so he has the right to have the pride. When he hears of his fate and how it came true he realizes that he is the one afflicting pain on his town and the townspeople. When he thinks he solve the riddle so he is please with himself until he is proven wrong.
* Capacity for Suffering- Well he suffers more than any man should have to. When he realizes that he did what the gods had set for him and he made his fate come true. He did what he feels that he did the worst so he wants to be severely punished he wants "For death; a poor exchange." - Oedipus (page 63 Oedipus the king). He feels death is the best for his fate now so he can't cause anymore pain among the town and his family.
* A Sense of Commitment- Oedipus is committed to avoiding the prophecy and he is committed to curing his towns.
* Vigorous Protest- He protests that the old blind man can really see what he really is.
* Transfiguration- When oedipus realizes that he really did commit the crime and made his fate come true.
* Impact- his impact is on what he is known for his wife the reason why she's dead. and what his children have to live with.
* Supreme Pride/Hubris- Oedipus has extreme pride because well he is a king so he has the right to have the pride. When he hears of his fate and how it came true he realizes that he is the one afflicting pain on his town and the townspeople. When he thinks he solve the riddle so he is please with himself until he is proven wrong.
* Capacity for Suffering- Well he suffers more than any man should have to. When he realizes that he did what the gods had set for him and he made his fate come true. He did what he feels that he did the worst so he wants to be severely punished he wants "For death; a poor exchange." - Oedipus (page 63 Oedipus the king). He feels death is the best for his fate now so he can't cause anymore pain among the town and his family.
* A Sense of Commitment- Oedipus is committed to avoiding the prophecy and he is committed to curing his towns.
* Vigorous Protest- He protests that the old blind man can really see what he really is.
* Transfiguration- When oedipus realizes that he really did commit the crime and made his fate come true.
* Impact- his impact is on what he is known for his wife the reason why she's dead. and what his children have to live with.
Sunday, September 27, 2009
Despair
Question:
What is the meaning of "Despair" and how does this theme manifest itself in both plays?
ANSWEROedipus is in despair when he finds out that he is the reason that all the people in Thebes is sick and the land is going to crap is because of him. He has sinned so the god's are punishing him for it.
Not only does the people of Thebes suffer, Oedipus, his father, mother, and children suffer a great deal.
The Thebes town people suffer by the sickness and the lousy land.
His father got killed by his son...
His mother suffered in the thought that she sent Oedipus away to get destroyed and then married him.. and had his children.
His children have to live with the fact that that they're father is their brother.
“O dark intolerable inescapable night that has no day! Cloud that no air can take away! O and again that piercing pain, torture in the flesh and in the soul’s dark memory.” –Oedipus (pg.62, Oedipus the King)
Antigone's life is filled with despair but mostly she has to deal with despair with creon he thinks that everything should be in his power because he is the king. This upsets her because she does what she feels is right burying her brother.O dark intolerable inescapable night that has no day! Cloud that no air can take away! O and again that piercing pain, torture in the flesh and in the soul’s dark memory.” –Oedipus (pg.62, Oedipus the King)
What is the meaning of "Despair" and how does this theme manifest itself in both plays?
Antigone Conscientious Objection
Question:
What is "conscientious objection"?In what ways does Antigone demonstrate conscientious objection?In your opinion, did she do the right thing? Explain your view in terms of how 21st Century citizens might view her actions.
Answer:
Conscientious objection is doing something based on your own morals and beliefs not because of the law. Antigone goes by her morals when she buries Polynices. Even though he wasn't doing lawful acts. It was her brother you can't replace your own flesh and blood. She did what she felt was right for her time period and in today's times I know I would do the same. Because my brother and I don't always see eye to eye but he is my brother I love him and I would want him to have peace put to his soul/body by having a funeral. "If this is God's will, I shall learn my lesson in death; But my enemies are wrong, I wish them no worse punishment than mine." ~ Antigone (page 150, Antigone)
Answer:
Conscientious objection is doing something based on your own morals and beliefs not because of the law. Antigone goes by her morals when she buries Polynices. Even though he wasn't doing lawful acts. It was her brother you can't replace your own flesh and blood. She did what she felt was right for her time period and in today's times I know I would do the same. Because my brother and I don't always see eye to eye but he is my brother I love him and I would want him to have peace put to his soul/body by having a funeral. "If this is God's will, I shall learn my lesson in death; But my enemies are wrong, I wish them no worse punishment than mine." ~ Antigone (page 150, Antigone)
Ignorance vs. Guilt USE THIS ONE!
Question:
If a person does not know, is that person still guilty of grievous crime?
If a person does not know, is that person still guilty of grievous crime?
Consider the plight of Oedipus and a modern day example.What would you do if you were on the jury at the Oedipus trial? What would you do if you were on the jury in a modern day trial?What would cause you to vote one way or another? Values? Beliefs? Evidence? Society Norms? Other information?
Answer:
Yes and no, Just because you think you didn't think you did something wrong doesn't mean you didn't do it but there are those people that choose to overlook what they are doing because they believe that they are too good for the law.
If I was to be on the trail to decide the fate of Oedipus it would be hard to do. These is a strange case because it has many different elements of factors and how to justify each and everyone is a hard thing to do.
His fate is one that many try to change but just lead right to it. His mother and father (Jocasta and Laius) tried to solve the problem by killing Oedipus but the servant sent to do the killing couldn't bare to live with himself to take the life of a baby. So he gave it to a Shepperd and the Shepperd gave it to Oedipus' adoptive mother and father.
When Oedipus heard of his fate he thought that the man and woman taking care of him where his real parents he had no idea that they weren't so by him running made him feel like he was doing the right thing but in reality he was doing what he was set on earth to do.
Oedipus isn't ignorance to the law he knows the law because he is the king but for him. Then again if he knew of where he came from and the truth from the start he wouldn't have the fate that the god's had set for him. But no matter how you look at it a guilty man is a guilty man. He committed the crime he had said what would happen to the man that did such thing "His fate will be nothing worse than banishment." (page 31 King Oedipus). He had set the fate of the one that committed the crime and he wants to follow what he has said. But Creon wont allow him to do that.
Oedipus committed the crime he should be punished for HIS actions. The crime is his doing no one else's.
Answer:
Yes and no, Just because you think you didn't think you did something wrong doesn't mean you didn't do it but there are those people that choose to overlook what they are doing because they believe that they are too good for the law.
If I was to be on the trail to decide the fate of Oedipus it would be hard to do. These is a strange case because it has many different elements of factors and how to justify each and everyone is a hard thing to do.
His fate is one that many try to change but just lead right to it. His mother and father (Jocasta and Laius) tried to solve the problem by killing Oedipus but the servant sent to do the killing couldn't bare to live with himself to take the life of a baby. So he gave it to a Shepperd and the Shepperd gave it to Oedipus' adoptive mother and father.
When Oedipus heard of his fate he thought that the man and woman taking care of him where his real parents he had no idea that they weren't so by him running made him feel like he was doing the right thing but in reality he was doing what he was set on earth to do.
Oedipus isn't ignorance to the law he knows the law because he is the king but for him. Then again if he knew of where he came from and the truth from the start he wouldn't have the fate that the god's had set for him. But no matter how you look at it a guilty man is a guilty man. He committed the crime he had said what would happen to the man that did such thing "His fate will be nothing worse than banishment." (page 31 King Oedipus). He had set the fate of the one that committed the crime and he wants to follow what he has said. But Creon wont allow him to do that.
Oedipus committed the crime he should be punished for HIS actions. The crime is his doing no one else's.
Antigone
Antigone and Ismene meet up and talk about the laws of the man and how they need to bury there brother because both deserve the peaceful resting. but its against the law and Ismene doesn't want any part of the horrible act. And Antigone is going to do it because the worst punishment is only death.
a man came in and told Creon that someone buried Polynices was buried. Creon got upset and told him that he had to find the man that buried Polynices. The only person can choose the fate of things is the king.
a man came in and told Creon that someone buried Polynices was buried. Creon got upset and told him that he had to find the man that buried Polynices. The only person can choose the fate of things is the king.
King Oedipus.
To start the book off the people of the town is hanging out in front of the palace. The city has the plague and people are dieing. Oedipus asks the Priest why they are there and he tells him they want him the king to figure out how to fix what is going on with the plague. Oedipus tells him that he sent Creon (brother-in law) to Delphic oracle to find out.
Creon comes back " I will tell you if you wish me to speak in the presence of all. If not, let us go in." Page 28, King Oedipus. So like Creon give Oedipus the chance to keep things a secret or not. Oedipus decides to let the town know what is going on. Creon tells Oedipus and the town that Laius' killer is in Thebes and in order for the plague to be done that the need to find him and run out of town.
Tiresias is called to tell Oedipus who the killer is. Tiresias tells Oedipus that he is the murder and he doesn't believe him. But once he finds out that He is the killer of his father. He realizes that his wife is also his wife and he had children with her. He puts more pain on himself then necessary Creon takes pidy on him and allows Oedipus to see his girls and tells them that he is really sorry because he has caused so much pain for them and no one is going to want to marry them.
Creon comes back " I will tell you if you wish me to speak in the presence of all. If not, let us go in." Page 28, King Oedipus. So like Creon give Oedipus the chance to keep things a secret or not. Oedipus decides to let the town know what is going on. Creon tells Oedipus and the town that Laius' killer is in Thebes and in order for the plague to be done that the need to find him and run out of town.
Tiresias is called to tell Oedipus who the killer is. Tiresias tells Oedipus that he is the murder and he doesn't believe him. But once he finds out that He is the killer of his father. He realizes that his wife is also his wife and he had children with her. He puts more pain on himself then necessary Creon takes pidy on him and allows Oedipus to see his girls and tells them that he is really sorry because he has caused so much pain for them and no one is going to want to marry them.
Friday, September 18, 2009
Introduction to Oedipus the King
Dramatic Irony: Is a big deal because the main point to the story is the lack of knowledge of the king Oedipus. We the reader knows whats accruing in the story, but Oedipus is completely clueless.
Sophocles has a hard time until his death. He is also highly respected by others.
Sophocles has a hard time until his death. He is also highly respected by others.
Thursday, September 10, 2009
book twenty-three
Odysseus tells Penelope that he is her husband.. she wants to believe him but she just can't because she waited to long for her to think it is him
book twenty- two
the fighting begins odysseus and telemachus kill all but two dudes. then they force the servants to clean up the mess.
book twenty
Odysseus thinks there are too many suitors to fight and kill. but Athena tells him that to gods are behind him and ready to help him fight. Athena ask zeus to send a sign that is good. Zeus sends a eagle with a dove in his claws which is a sign of trouble.
book nineteen - Odysseus
when the suitors are sleeping Telemachus and Odysseus go and find all the weapons and hidethem. Odysseus is pretending to be a beggar and is with penelope.. answering her questions.
book sixteen- Odyssey
Telemachus meets the "Stranger" which is Odysseus. He tells him that he is his father. Telemachus is over joyed. the plot to get their land back. Athena shows up and tells them to leave
book fifteen - Odyssey
Anthena tells Odysseus to go back to Ithica and to beware because the suitors want to kill him.
book fourteen - Odyssey
Odysseus talks with Eumaeus and he says he is coming back but Eumaeus doesn't believe him they eat and talk. and Eumaeus wishes Odysseus was back
book eleven- Odyssey
Odysseus goes to River of oceans a performs the ceremony that he was instructed to do by Circe.
He gets to talk to three dead people the first one was Elpenor... who wants Odysseus to bury his body. after he talks to everyone.. the spirits start to ask him questions and starts to get scared and runs back to the ship.
He gets to talk to three dead people the first one was Elpenor... who wants Odysseus to bury his body. after he talks to everyone.. the spirits start to ask him questions and starts to get scared and runs back to the ship.
book ten- Odyssey
He still is telling his stories and how he almost got killed and how his men did get killed.
book nine- odyssey
Odysseus he tells about his adventures to Emual and he tells him that goddesses wanted himf a husband but he was faithfull to his wife and he wanted to stay that way.
book five- Odyssey
Odysseus and Calypso are on the island it has been 19 years. Calypso tries to do stuff with Odysseus but he is like "hey! I got a lady back at home!" so he doesn't do anything and tells her he would rather die then be without his wife forever!!! because being immortal would suck.
He does do things with her but he cries everyday because he feels guilty.
Posieden gets upset.. and makes a bad storm..
then he goes Phaeacians to hide under leaves.
He does do things with her but he cries everyday because he feels guilty.
Posieden gets upset.. and makes a bad storm..
then he goes Phaeacians to hide under leaves.
Book two- Odyssey
The book begins with Telemachus talking to the Ithican elders about the suitors. The elders think Penelope deserves the suitors because she leads them on having the think that they have a chance of being married to her but in reality she doesn't want any part of them. Telemachus tries to talk with a suitor and tries to get him to leave. Telemachus threatens the suitors that he is going to kill them
Tuesday, September 8, 2009
Book One- Odyssey
The Gods go and have a meeting to discuss Odysseus how he is being held on the island called Pylos by a nymph; Calypso. The nymph told Odysseus that he can have immortal life because she wants him as her husband.
At the meeting the Gods decide that Odysseus is to be let go and he will make his way to his home. (Ithica).
In Ithica Telemachus and Penelope ( Odysseus' son and wife). Athena ( daughter of Zeus) goes and pretends to be one of Odysseus' old friends and tells Telemachus that he should get a crew and sail to every island looking for word of his father, because she heard he is still alive. Telemachus Ponders the idea of going but he wants to get rid of the slim ball suitors that have parties and are going after his mom.
Penelope doesn't like the suitors because she believes that Odysseus is still alive even though he has been gone for a long time. She leads the suitors on by saying that she is going to knit a Shaw. When she is knitting in the morning she undoes the stitches at night. So it takes her three years to do. Alas discovered what Penelope does with the Shaw and tells her that she better finish it or she will tell everyone and then her father will pick a suitor for her! (and if that happens her wealth and estate is his also).
At the meeting the Gods decide that Odysseus is to be let go and he will make his way to his home. (Ithica).
In Ithica Telemachus and Penelope ( Odysseus' son and wife). Athena ( daughter of Zeus) goes and pretends to be one of Odysseus' old friends and tells Telemachus that he should get a crew and sail to every island looking for word of his father, because she heard he is still alive. Telemachus Ponders the idea of going but he wants to get rid of the slim ball suitors that have parties and are going after his mom.
Penelope doesn't like the suitors because she believes that Odysseus is still alive even though he has been gone for a long time. She leads the suitors on by saying that she is going to knit a Shaw. When she is knitting in the morning she undoes the stitches at night. So it takes her three years to do. Alas discovered what Penelope does with the Shaw and tells her that she better finish it or she will tell everyone and then her father will pick a suitor for her! (and if that happens her wealth and estate is his also).
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